RFI: There have
been reports that some members of your Iraqi
National List voted against the renomination of
Jalal Talabani as president of Iraq.
Iyad Allawi:
Brother Jalal Talabani is like an ideal for us.
We have long supported his candidacy for the
presidency of the republic -- not because he is
a Kurd, but because he is an Iraqi fighter.
Because he is an Iraqi patriot, we thought he
could become the president of Iraq. There are
points in common [about him] on which all can
agree.
RFI: What are your
ambitions for the new government?
Allawi: I wish
success [to the government] especially in two
issues: security and, second, that people can
somehow start to live -- receiving electricity,
money, and wages, so that they get assurances
about the wealth of the country. This is what I
certainly wish. I wish it to all Iraq, and, I
can say, to every Arab and every Muslim.
There are the beginnings of a
social split in Iraq that is being built on
unhealthy principles, or backward
principles. If this division, God forbid,
should continue, it will undoubtedly draw
the country into more problems. But we
cannot predict what will happen.
But, on the other hand, regarding
the style of the formation [of the cabinet], I
do not think it will be a style of building real
national solidarity. If we come and say: "This
part is for Sunnis, this one for Shi’a, and this
one for the Kurds -- this is a style that will
create a real split. And there are people who
flirt with that, be it among Iraqis in the
country or from abroad, who push in this
direction. Of course, the result will be
weakening of Iraq and the demolition of its
strong social background and structure.
RFI: What do you
think of proposals to integrate the militias
into the armed forces of Iraq?
Allawi: We want
the militias ended. We do not want to have them
integrated into the military and similar state
structures. No integration. Integration would
mean creating one regiment Shi’ite, another one
Sunni, another one loyal to the [Iraqi National]
Accord, another one loyal to the Supreme Council
[of the Islamic Revolution in Iraq], another one
loyal to someone else. And what will be the
result? There will be fights.
RFI: How do you
assess the current political and social
environment in Iraq?
Allawi: There are
the beginnings of a social split in Iraq that is
being built on unhealthy principles, or backward
principles. If this division, God forbid, should
continue, it will undoubtedly draw the country
into more problems. But we cannot predict what
will happen. What we can see happening in front
of us now, at least, is that killing based on
identity has started as a result of this split.
People started to be expelled from their homes
because of their identity, not because of
anything they did. This is a product of the
split that has already happened in reality on
the ground. Should this continue and should we
reach a point that would not allow a return to a
renewed building of national unity, then a
catastrophe will definitely happen.
(translated by Petr Kubalek)